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Stage & Studio: Daniel H. Wilson’s ‘Hole In The Sky’

In her new podcast, Dmae Lo Roberts talks about science fiction, alien visitors, how science and art interact, and Indigenous tradition with the Portland author of "Robopocalypse" and his new novel "Hole in the Sky."
Robopocalypse and Hole in the Sky author Daniel H. Wilson. Photo: Brenton Salo

According to a recent You.gov poll, nearly half of Americans believe that aliens have visited the Earth. So many science fiction literature and movies have speculated about alien invasions and encounters. A new book, Hole In The Sky, by New York Times best-selling Daniel H. Wilson, re-envisions a first-contact invasion from an Indigenous perspective. 

Wilson is a Cherokee citizen and Portland author of several novels, including the New York Times bestseller Robopocalypse, as well as many nonfiction books, and countless short stories and graphic novels. He is a renowned roboticist and engineer with a Ph.D. from Carnegie Mellon who has worked in recent years as a threat forecaster for NASA and the U.S. Air Force (Blue Horizons).

His newest book, HOLE IN THE SKY, was recently chosen by Scientific American magazine as a best pick for 2025. It’s just been picked by Netflix to become a film produced by Jason Bateman’s Aggregate Films with Wilson adapting the screenplay. Wilson’s fellow Oklahoman and friend, Sterlin Harjo (Reservation Dogs), is set to direct. Read more about the adaptation process in Space.com.

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Stage and Studio host Dmae Lo Roberts in the studio with author Daniel H. Wilson.

In this podcast you’ll hear Wilson talking about his book, his early love of science fiction and the authors who inspired him and…

Why he set his book in the Spiro Mounds of Northeastern Oklahoma: “The mound builder civilization just has always been fascinating to me because it’s so ancient. It’s a precursor civilization before a lot of the tribes that we know today, including the Cherokee, and of course the Cherokee aren’t from that area. It’s just this ancient, mysterious place … basically our equivalent of the Egyptian pyramids in North America.”

How science and the military differ regarding aliens in his book:  ”I used to be a scientist and a scientist wants to understand that kind of stuff, even if it’s maybe you shouldn’t. I did some consulting, some contract work for the military. I’ve seen their perspective on it, which is, and particularly the Air Force, which is, you know, let’s destroy it. They see the unknown as a threat. A scientist wants to figure out the unknown.”

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The relationship of science and art: “The more I live, the more I think everything is really, just, we’re all just sort of these patterns that are existing and reality. I think that that’s what art is. It’s just capturing a beautiful pattern and  science is really about finding those patterns and understanding them.”

Synopsis: Hole In The Sky follows a newly sober Native father on a quest to repair his fractured relationship with his daughter, a foul-mouthed astrophysicist whose AR glasses begin to send her mysterious messages; and a by-the-books government agent as they brace for the arrival of a non-human intelligence that threatens our understanding of reality. Unlike a typical alien invasion story (which tends to mirror what generations of colonizers have done to Indigenous people), Hole In The Sky draws on Native mythologies and cosmologies about what lies beyond our world, embracing the unknown rather than seeking to control or destroy it.

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Daniel H. Wilson is a Cherokee citizen and author of the New York Times bestselling Robopocalypse and its sequel Robogenesis, as well as How to Survive a Robot UprisingThe Clockwork Dynasty, and The Andromeda Evolution (an authorized sequel to The Andromeda Strain). He earned a Ph.D. in robotics from Carnegie Mellon University, as well as master’s degrees in machine learning and robotics. Wilson lives in Portland, Oregon.

Dmae Lo Roberts

Dmae Roberts is a two-time Peabody winning radio producer, writer and theatre artist. Her work is often autobiographical and cross-cultural and informed by her biracial identity. Her Peabody award-winning documentary Mei Mei, a Daughter’s Song is a harrowing account of her mother’s childhood in Taiwan during WWII. She adapted this radio documentary into a film. She won a second Peabody-award for her eight-hour Crossing East documentary, the first Asian American history series on public radio. She received the Dr. Suzanne Ahn Civil Rights and Social Justice award from the Asian American Journalists Association and was selected as a United States Artists (USA) Fellow. Her stage plays and essays have been published in numerous publications. She published her memoir The Letting Go Trilogies: Stories of a Mixed-Race Family in 2016. As a theatre artist, she has won two Drammys, one for her acting and one for her play Picasso In The Back Seat which also won the Oregon Book Award. Her plays have been produced in Portland, Seattle, Los Angeles, NYC and Florida. Roberts is the executive producer of MediaRites, a nonprofit multicultural production organization and co-founder of Theatre Diaspora, an Asian American/Pacific Islander non-profit theatre that started as a project of MediaRites. She created the Crossing East Archive of more than 200 hours of broadcast-quality, pan-AAPI interviews and oral histories. For 23 years, Roberts volunteered to host and produce Stage & Studio live on KBOO radio. In 2009, she started the podcast on StagenStudio.com, which continues at ArtsWatch.

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